Am interested in knowing how many people have found the sci-pack evaluation tricky. I have completed over 10 hours on a topic and am frustrated that the evaluation is tough and tricky. I am sure there is a way to solve it... any tips or ideas will be appreciated.

Cynthia Rasquinha
Cynthia Rasquinha
1090 Activity Points

Dear Cynthia, Have you asked assistance from a SciPack Mentor? Within the SciPack, there is a button labeled "Ask a Mentor." Each SciPack has an expert mentor assigned to answer content questions. Don't give up! Take notes, ask a mentor, go through all the quizzes - prepare yourself well before taking the final assessment. The average individual takes about 10 hours to complete a SciPack. You can do it! Flavio.

Flavio Mendez
Flavio Mendez
35818 Activity Points

I have had the same problem. I have no idea how they count the points for the final assessment. If it has multiple answers and you miss one is it all wrong? I don't know. I had one that I wasn't successful on all 3 times and have no way of knowing exactly what I missed and why. I did complete one this morning on the 3rd attempt. I went back through all of the questions and the section evaluations before taking it the final time. My percentage jumped greatly. That is going to be my current strategy for now.

Theresa Rabogliatti
Theresa Rabogliatti
16980 Activity Points

D you know what happens when a person fails a third time? Does one have to start over?

Naomi Beverly
Naomi Beverly
19130 Activity Points

Hi:
I understand that you are frustrated. Have you look into asking the Mentor?

SciPack Content Mentors

SciPack Content Mentors are content experts assigned to specific SciPacks. These content mentors are tasked with responding to teachers’ questions submitted via e-mail within the SciPacks. The SciPack Content Mentors respond to all questions within 48 hours and are available to respond to an unlimited number of questions.

They are content mentors but they may be able to help you. The following describes who they are:
http://learningcenter.nsta.org/help/mentors/Mentorbio.aspx#Dostal
Within the SciPack there is a bar that goes across the top that says Home and Ask the Mentor. Perhaps they can help you overcome your frustrations.
Adah

Adah Stock
Adah Stock
101490 Activity Points

Adah I tried asking the mentor but it was after not passing the assessment the 3 times. They needed to know the specific area of the test. This doesn't help when you don't know specifically which questions you are missing, to find out why? I still can't figure out were I my thinking was incorrect on that test. I am thinking it my be in how they are scored- multiple choice with multiple answers- is it part wrong or all wrong?

Theresa Rabogliatti
Theresa Rabogliatti
16980 Activity Points

Hi: I will look into this further. Adah

Adah Stock
Adah Stock
101490 Activity Points

Same here. My problem is when the site has problems after you've done all the work and can't take the final test when you need to. Have been trying since 2:00 yesterday and still can't get into my library, plus all the phone lines that 'could help me' were answered by a machine, and no call back even though really needed something done by today.... the online support could not figure out what was going on either because she could not access the library section either. Major frustration!!

Connie Garland
connie garland
130 Activity Points

Connie Had that problem a few weeks ago. I sometimes work on them when I get up in the morning before school and I couldn't access my library (right after I was already in it froze). I had to email and it took about a day to get fixed.

Theresa Rabogliatti
Theresa Rabogliatti
16980 Activity Points

Something else that may help with the evaluations is to have notes available to look at. You can take notes over parts of the lessons that are confusing or that you may have missed questions on during the lesson itself or during the section reviews and then you can use those on the final evaluation to help you answer the questions. Most of the questions on the final evaluation are the same or similar to those in the SciPack itself.

Tina Harris
Tina Harris
65560 Activity Points

I ditto everything everyone has said. I'll add a little bit more...1) take notes, 2) go back through all of the pre-questions and if you get any of them wrong...review that section again. Finally, after you take the final assessment (the first time) there is a way you can review in what areas you did not do well on. Go back to those areas and rework them before taking the test again. I have found that using these strategies has helped me with the SciPacks.

Sue Garcia
Sue Garcia
42665 Activity Points

I just completed my first Scipack and I also feel a little frustrated. I did pass but I really wanted to know what I specifically missed so that I could go back and make sure that I understand my mistakes. That would be especially helpful before I teach that topic. Any suggestions?

Rachel Legerski
Rachel Legerski
5545 Activity Points

I was having a little trouble, also, but was quickly reminded to email the mentor. I have not tried it yet, but I will soon and post in which ways it was helpful.

Naomi Beverly
Naomi Beverly
19130 Activity Points

I think there are many of us who think the scipack is pretty confusing. I myself had a hard time and was frustrated with the final assessment I am not a fan of it and don't think I would use this in my future teachings.

Adriana Gutierrez
Adriana Gutierrez
1545 Activity Points

Hello everyone-- I feel awful that the SciPacks are not as helpful for everyone as they have been for me. I've only had trouble when SWT (studying while tired)...or when trying to rush through the material. But, it sounds like there are some people who are really doing their work and still having issues. If I think of any strategies that are successful for me when I am struggling, I will post them. All the best, Naomi Beverly

Naomi Beverly
Naomi Beverly
19130 Activity Points

I had problems with the test as well. I have to say that I found some of the questions to be ambiguous and not aligned to the answers. Some of the questions were just plain silly. Once I figured that out then on the second try, I finally passed physical science. I think the wording in this scipack is misleading and can cause thinking errors. There is some double speak and once you get past knowing and understanding this, then apply this thought to the test you can pass it. It's all about strategies, right. The strategy with this one is be aware they are off target at times, and look for them and adjust. : )

Lindsey Truxel
Lindsey Truxel
2060 Activity Points

After reading these posts I will be careful to go slowly, not be tired and ask for help with a mentor when I start a scipack. Thank you everyone for the advice! You have raised my level of concern!

Susan O'Brien
Susan O'Brien
1870 Activity Points

I love the information that the SciPacks have to offer, but I have found several of the final assessments to be tricky. I agree with everyone's suggestions about going back over it and reviewing, but it is frustrating to review it and still not being able to pass given 3 chances. I have been very careful and fine-tooth combing all the information on the other SciPacks I've taken, though it's terrible not to be able to go back and be able to do the one I messed up on again. Good luck to everyone!

Jessica Minton
Jessica Minton
6230 Activity Points

I would love to take advantages of these online courses, but the thought of individuals more qualified then myself not passing is intimidating. I skimmed through but never really saw an answer to the question of what happens if you do not pass after the third attempt. If you fail all three, do you have to do everything all over or are you locked out (failed) forever?

Samantha Coyle
Samantha Coyle
2245 Activity Points

Sci Pak evaluations can be tricky. It depends on the SciPak. I have done lots of them and might be able to give you some hints. The multiple answer questions are the most difficult.

Daniel Carroll
Daniel Carroll
18550 Activity Points

Take some notes while you read. That seems to help. Also do all the labs and activities included they do make a difference. Hope that helps

Susan Macsotai
Susan Macsotai
930 Activity Points

You are making me nervous reading this and this learning center site is overwhelming enough.  Wishing everyone luck who has taken this!

Raquel Dugan-Dibble
Raquel Dugan-Dibble
1120 Activity Points

Dear Raquel,

No worries - as others mentioned, take your time (SciPacks allowed you to learn at your own pace).  Take notes and go over all the animations and simulations. Finally, if you have questions - click on "Ask a Mentor."  You can send unlimitted number of questions to the SciPack Mentor - he/she will respond to you via email.

Good luck!

Flavio.

Flavio Mendez
Flavio Mendez
35818 Activity Points

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